Class codes for workers comp.

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Class codes for workers comp.

Post by Tom_in_CA » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:24 pm

There seems to be several different class codes that can cover sweeper drivers. I believe there's one code that actually refers to "sweepers" in its description. But we can also be in a janitorial category. And another describes "clearing and grubbing for paving related work".

And I have talked to some other sweeper Co's in CA, who have a different code than ours . Some of it could be due to "dumb luck", where some agent way-back-when simply assumed they belonged in. Or perhaps it more accurately describes *their* particular type of sweeping . Eg.: shopping centers, versus broom sweepers doing industrial facilities and/or city streets, versus construction oriented paving related sweeping, etc...

Naturally, we sweeper co's will want to be in the cheapest category, doh! Has any of you ever been told by your agent, that if there's any cross-over description of your work (eg.: you do a mix of both maintenance related AND paving related), that you have to defer to the higher of the two rates ? Or *at best* they will tell you that you have to break out all the time on employees work logs and time cards, to show which hours went to which categories (what a pain !!).

I know a friend's company who is in a class code that is nearly half as much as ours cost. And we do almost identical work. And I highly doubt they are "breaking out the hours" for when they stop and do an incidental different type job (who really cares? Who's really watching or scrutinizing ?)

So how do you guys get to your class code, and do you have any push-back from agents, when attempting to get a cheaper class code ?

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Re: Class codes for workers comp.

Post by Tom_in_CA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:35 pm

Well I ended up getting class code 9403 ("street sweeping"), for the past fiscal year, which is cheaper than 9008 ("Janitorial").

But at the end of the year audit, I guess I didn't answer the audit questions with the right script. The auditor questioned our type of operations. I answered correctly, and made careful pains to stress that if a sweeper is doing road/street projects, YET WITHIN A CONED ZONE, that *technically* it legally becomes "off road". I said this distinction because I erroneously thought that "streets" (as in .... live streets with traffic, like privatized municipal sweeping) is the more risky classification. And that .... even though we're "on streets", yet they are closed streets, during the time they are being worked on (eg.: grind, pave, etc....)

As it turns out , if you say you're sweeping "off street", they interpret that to mean things like: shopping centers, MHPs, industrial facilities, etc.... And as such, will lump you into 9008. Which is more expensive.

I tried to back-pedal and say : "Well it's still 'on the streets', so you can ignore my silly distinction". But it was too late. They already disputed that 9008 is the more correct category. Doh !

But in the end, decided not to un-do the prior year. That will remain in the 9403. But going forward, they expect me to divide up my payroll, as per *type* of sweeping done (whether on roads/streets, versus route stop private lots).

What a joke, eh ? A street sweeper is a street sweeper is a street sweeper. It shouldn't matter *where* you sweep. And I'm of the opinion that 9008 ("janitorial") more-correctly describes the night-time shopping center litter-gitters. Not the fullsize broom sweeper guys that do construction related.

But it's a loosing battle to fight the debate of semantics.

So forewarning to y'all: You do not sweep off-road. You sweep streets (if your 2 choices are 9008 vs 9403).

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